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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Bob Arctor on September 22, 2011, 12:43 pm
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I am a complete n00b when it comes to RCs. I found out about JWH-018 because of silk road, read upon it, decided it looks pretty awesome and ordered some for sampling. What else I should check out? I'm into weed, shrooms, lsd... Thinking about trying out some molly. Are there any chemicals with similar effects? Maybe something cheap and/or (semi)legal?
Share your knowledge!
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Basically, with RC's you get any possible drug (and beyond)!
I don't even know where to start, because the list is huge.
Hence.... http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/research_chems/
You can start with the FAQ http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/research_chems/research_chems_faq.shtml
You have stimulants, psychedelics, and thanks to the jwh series, cannabinoids.
As for the JWH series... 018 IS THE BOMB!
To make a story shorts since I'm drifting off-topic, my job has me do drug tests on a regular but unannounced basis, and they check for *everything*, even benzos, barbiturates and tricyclic antidepressant (who the hell uses that Oo), and some other shits too, including alcohol.
They are devilish. Weed stays so long in your system I cannot even allow myself *one* joint, it's too risky: I went cold turkey for more than a month before joining and the first test, but I was still positive :o and already blew my "one chance".
But they absolutely don't check for JWH018, and its completely chemically different to THC and its metabolites, so no problems at all! Thanks to SR and lovely hashUK me and a friend can be high again.
I'm assuming you haven't received it yet. You'll be amazed how close it feels to a strong indica "stoned" feeling. Effect peaks in a couple minutes (probably before you finish the joint). That means you get "very high" all of the sudden, so careful , i'v read dozens of report of people freaking out because they took too much, though that never happened to me nor my friend , and we'v gone medieval a couple times.
As for the quantity, everyone is bitching about using a scale, but I found that overated. Simple sprinkle a TINY amount over a tobacco joint and you'll be fine. When I say "tiny", I mean really small though. See that "O" on your keyboard? That kind of tiny.
Major downside to 018 is that tolerance creeps in fast. I think we have to put like 5 times that tiny "O" after a couple month.
Addictiveness is like cannabis, so also careful.
As for the other JWH, I found those on SR are way overpriced, especially because they are less potent.
If know a website that ships legals RCs from UE, and eventually illegals ones from china, but in bulk. They have 018 but in bulk from china, and any package coming from china has a big red "contraband" sign in my country, so too risky... it's "buy-jwh.com", and yes, it's legit.
Have fun!!
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Basically, with RC's you get any possible drug (and beyond)!
I don't even know where to start, because the list is huge.
Hence.... http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/research_chems/
You can start with the FAQ http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/research_chems/research_chems_faq.shtml
You have stimulants, psychedelics, and thanks to the jwh series, cannabinoids.
As for the JWH series... 018 IS THE BOMB!
To make a story shorts since I'm drifting off-topic, my job has me do drug tests on a regular but unannounced basis, and they check for *everything*, even benzos, barbiturates and tricyclic antidepressant (who the hell uses that Oo), and some other shits too, including alcohol.
They are devilish. Weed stays so long in your system I cannot even allow myself *one* joint, it's too risky: I went cold turkey for more than a month before joining and the first test, but I was still positive :o and already blew my "one chance".
But they absolutely don't check for JWH018, and its completely chemically different to THC and its metabolites, so no problems at all! Thanks to SR and lovely hashUK me and a friend can be high again.
I'm assuming you haven't received it yet. You'll be amazed how close it feels to a strong indica "stoned" feeling. Effect peaks in a couple minutes (probably before you finish the joint). That means you get "very high" all of the sudden, so careful , i'v read dozens of report of people freaking out because they took too much, though that never happened to me nor my friend , and we'v gone medieval a couple times.
As for the quantity, everyone is bitching about using a scale, but I found that overated. Simple sprinkle a TINY amount over a tobacco joint and you'll be fine. When I say "tiny", I mean really small though. See that "O" on your keyboard? That kind of tiny.
Major downside to 018 is that tolerance creeps in fast. I think we have to put like 5 times that tiny "O" after a couple month.
Addictiveness is like cannabis, so also careful.
As for the other JWH, I found those on SR are way overpriced, especially because they are less potent.
If know a website that ships legals RCs from UE, and eventually illegals ones from china, but in bulk. They have 018 but in bulk from china, and any package coming from china has a big red "contraband" sign in my country, so too risky... it's "buy-jwh.com", and yes, it's legit.
Have fun!!
Great info, thanks!
Anyone know if you can vaporise the synthetic JWH018 with the extreme and which temperature?
We don't wanna wreck the unit with powder and will probably infuse some herb with it.
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2C-I/E/P and 4-Aco-DMT are some very worthwhile psychedelic RCs. Methylone and mephedrone are good feel-good stimulants although the latter is cardiotoxic. Methoxetamine is a great dissociative, and one of my favorite drugs.
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Great info, thanks!
Anyone know if you can vaporise the synthetic JWH018 with the extreme and which temperature?
We don't wanna wreck the unit with powder and will probably infuse some herb with it.
You'r very welcome :)
You can indeed vap it, some people do it "chase the dragon" style. I can't tell you the exact temperature, nor verify, but as far as I remember, it is lower than for thc. I think when it does vap, there are no residue though.
Have fun!
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2C-I/E/P and 4-Aco-DMT are some very worthwhile psychedelic RCs. Methylone and mephedrone are good feel-good stimulants although the latter is cardiotoxic. Methoxetamine is a great dissociative, and one of my favorite drugs.
where you are kind classes what an RC is these days, the general consensus is that its an active chem still legal in your country or specifically made to get around drug laws, i know thats not the traditional use of the term but it seems to be the way its going. in that respect though all of the ones you listed are class a here in the uk except MXE which is currently the only one worth bothering with in the uk although im not sure about camfetamine or 6-apb as i havent tried them myself yet. 4-mmc (mephedrone) was banned here some time ago but if you can still get it at chinese lab quality it will blow your mind like nothing else, yes it is cardiotoxic but then so are a lot of drugs like cocaine the main concern for 4-mmc was its vastroconstrictive effects but these were rare enough that id say they are more likely to occur in a few sensitive individuals rather than in the majority of people, me and many of my friends took loads of the stuff when it was legal and not one of us ended up with purple knees
also the pcp analogs are due to start turning up very soon likely starting with 3-meo-pcp but im not a massive dissociatives fan so i probably wont bother with that one. oh and on the jwh-018 i found simply sprinkling the powder into a roll up cig does the job just fine, careful though its strong stuff and has a penchant for causing panic attacks, itll also have a slightly metallic taste. when i first got some i went a bit overboard and the whole lower half of my body started shuddering, all i could do was turn to my mate and say "look at that, i cant stop it either" for some reason though i found it funny, oh and jwh-018 and in fact most of the jwh series are illegal in the uk now too although some of the AM compounds slipped through the ban and are still available, i did try am-2201 but wasnt very impressed, it also has an insanely high binding affinity for certain cannabinoid receptors blocking them completely (much like ssris block serotonin receptors stopping psychedelics from working) so you cant get as stoned again until your body refreshes the blocked receptors if you will, i didnt notice the effect too strongly but i didnt smoke that much of it
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My favorites,
2C-E
Methylone
**MXE**
and someday,
God willing,
X-MeO-PCP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I had a very nice time on approx 30mg of 2C-C last night.
That's how I can describe it, nice
Like in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. When the cartoons are going through the seasons and the little character sitting under the tree says "nice" when spring shows up. That kind of nice. :D
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All 2c-'s (b,c,d,e,i,t-7)
25i-NBOMe
4-aco-dmt
DPT
Dissociatives
MXE
4-mmc (Mephedrone)
m1 (Methylone)
6-apb
4-fma
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I had a very nice time on approx 30mg of 2C-C last night.
That's how I can describe it, nice
Like in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. When the cartoons are going through the seasons and the little character sitting under the tree says "nice" when spring shows up. That kind of nice. :D
I found 90 mg of 2C-C to be quite...
Pussy. :P
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Does it take a lot of energy to be that tough?
Dick :P
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Not tough bro,
Young and restless. ;)
But in all honesty, it is a PUSSY 2C. I've throw up profusely every time I've taken 2Cs except for a few times, (3 out of 4 times I didn't throw up I was on some sort of amphetamine).
I had 90 mg and didn't even get slightly sick, and the visuals were half ass to say the least. It was like 500 ug of 25i (1000 ug is the minimum for a good time IMHO)
Have you enjoyed the other 2Cs? I recommend E for visuals or I for Mental/soul searching. The first 45 minutes is stomach erupting hell but after that it's a fucking party! I've yet to try B, but when I do, I'm getting a gram from nomad and mixing it with (Orange) MDMA to try his famed "NZT-48".
-RI
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I have very little experience with RCs but I am quite fascinated with the scene. The only RC I've tried is MDPV, and that is one brutal fucker. Especially if you smoke it. I bought a gram of it and went through about 400mg over the course of three and a half days. I didn't sleep at all, nor did I eat, and lost 10 pounds. After a while it's just the stimulation of Crack or Meth but with no euphoria or positive effects. Stay away from that bitch, I thought it would be a great study aid like adderall or Dexedrine, but the desire to redose is way too strong.
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MXE is definitely the one to try. It goes great with weed. I like it a lot better than K.
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Not tough bro,
Young and restless. ;)
But in all honesty, it is a PUSSY 2C. I've throw up profusely every time I've taken 2Cs except for a few times, (3 out of 4 times I didn't throw up I was on some sort of amphetamine).
I had 90 mg and didn't even get slightly sick, and the visuals were half ass to say the least. It was like 500 ug of 25i (1000 ug is the minimum for a good time IMHO)
Have you enjoyed the other 2Cs? I recommend E for visuals or I for Mental/soul searching. The first 45 minutes is stomach erupting hell but after that it's a fucking party! I've yet to try B, but when I do, I'm getting a gram from nomad and mixing it with (Orange) MDMA to try his famed "NZT-48".
-RI
No sweat man.
I have a good deal of experience with Acid, 'shrooms (the best were the ones I grew myself, PF TEK) and some mescaline. That was quite some time ago though.
I wasn't looking for a shit ton of visuals which is why I chose C. I just wanted to experience a good feeling. As long as SR stays around I would like to try some of NB's 2C-B.
I also have some good E on the way which I am pretty excited for as all my experiences with E have been great.
I'm guessing I'm at least ten years older than you and the brain just doesn't rebound/accept what it once used to.
Anyway, no hard feelings RI and have fun on your quest.
T
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Thanks for all the replies guys. Did some reading on all of the mentioned chemicals. Methylone and MXE seems like something I was looking for. I'm especially intrigued by antidepressant qualities of MXE. Its gonna be my next purchase. It seems it's not even illegal in my country.
Any recommendations for MXE vendors? SilkRoad prices seems a bit high compared to buy-jwh.com. Maybe there are legit online vendors with even better prices?
If someone would pass me a free MXE or methylone sample in EU I would be most grateful;)
Thanks
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@bob
You won't find a better deal than at buy-jwh. They ship from hungary or china, and all packages are tracked and with signature, and there will be no stealth at all: if you get MXE from them, it's very likely there will be a big "METH" label on the plastic bag inside your package (I'm serious lol). The guy's english is a bit funky, but hey :)
If you are looking for antidepressant, I'd advise using "real" antidepressants, that have undergone massive and long clinical trials, such as sertraline or paroxetine. Paroxetine is a SSRI, and so is sertraline. Sertraline also has an action on dopamine.
If you are really depressed or feeling too "empty" to get things done, those products can change your life without potentially screwing up your brain's reward mechanism.
The choice is yours of course, but if you'd follow anything out of my advice, document yourself extensively - then decide!
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I can send MXE to the UK however, be aware I don't claim any liability etc for lost packages, haven't had any real issues with any customs though.
Also, me personally wouldn't suggest SSRI's to ANYONE... SSRI's have terrible side effects and rarely provide worthwhile effects.. (this is my opinion)
DXM has a very anti depressant like AFTER GLOW for me ;)
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I may be interested in some DXM powder :P
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@Rapid: No guts to chuck down the whole dirty tasting syrup? Or actually scared about your guts? :P :P
Teasing aside, DXM is a very old memory for me, and I'd like to try it once, once again. Powder form would be lovely to "motivate" a friend or two in accompagnying me! Most chemical suppliers, however & as expected, supply in bulk only...
@Enboom: I know SSRI's have a "terrible" reputation, but having been on paxil for quite a while in the past, I must say I never understood why. Of course, everyone is different, and especially no-one is equal in the "side effects business", but for me and my several month experience, it has been a blessing. It didn't solve my "depression", sure, but it did give me the strenght and more specifically the laid-back-attitude to fix what was wrong in my life at that time (long story short, my relationships with people -can't have the same level of expectations with others than which I enforce on myself)!
Side effects.. side effects... besides a datura-style dry mouth and the (ffs) delayed orgams... That was it! Dry mouth was annoying, sure, but you get used to it! Delayed orgasm was annoying for me, but this could be a blessing to others!
I say it again, I really don't understand why people all bitch about SSRIs (especially here in the EU)! They aren't addictive and there are no withdrawal effects. Sure, MDMA doesn't work while in treatment, but that saves the crash.
That being said, I had a moderate dose (20mg daily)... Some people take 40 or more, and that... *That* might be a whole different story... that once again drives me off topic, but hell! I double dosed once to "try", and hard to describe, but it felt like I was "super stoned" for a day and that feelings were numbed: nothing felt bad for sure, but nothing felt great either...
Sorry for drifting off subject, but I had to share my exp :)
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" They aren't addictive and there are no withdrawal effects. "
hxxp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSRI_discontinuation_syndrome.
You're altering your brain chemistry. I'm sure for some people they can be a blessing, especially when they are clinically depressed, however, the over prescription of them and things like Adderal cause changes in brain chemistry. Espeicially for doctors who are unaware of dimensional scale and Rx regardless.
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@Rapid: No guts to chuck down the whole dirty tasting syrup? Or actually scared about your guts? :P :P
Teasing aside, DXM is a very old memory for me, and I'd like to try it once, once again. Powder form would be lovely to "motivate" a friend or two in accompagnying me! Most chemical suppliers, however & as expected, supply in bulk only...
Its on, bro!
You have 2 options, throw down on DXM powder with me, or
Read my trip report when I actually get around to giving that a go.
lol
-RI
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I agree they aren't addictive, but there is definitely withdrawal if you suddenly stop taking them after using them for a while. I took Zoloft 100mg a day for around 6 months and quit cold turkey. I was restless, irritable, had wild mood swings and those damn electric shock sensations for about a week.
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Seems it does have some effects afterall! I never felt anything, but everyone is different.. i'm sure it's "worth" it though!
And as for adderal, it's still amphetamines, so no wonder :P
@Rapid, that's a deal !!!
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2C-b is my current favorite. it's a great deal of fun without any serious consequence from what i see. it has a nice mdma sort of body high except there's no lovey dovey, along with decent visuals at about 25 - 30 milligrams. there's domestic usa shipped on sr right now too 8)
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/68461
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I find 2C-B Psychedelic with clear mind set.
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2C-B. I would recommend it to anyone, such a beautiful substance. It has been so widely used for so many years now that I do not really consider it an RC anymore though.
Cheers.
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If you can get your hands on some JWH-018, get as much as you can.
Next to that, I think AM-2201 is quite popular.